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Bong,

I get all emotional when I see animals suffer, it is the way I am. I do not have HBO and actually glad I don't after reading your post. When 8 Belles went down in Churchill Downs, my eyes swelled with liquid, I did not cry but I felt for that horse, I was visibly upset, and the TV went off big time while I sat alone with my dogs.

I have 4 dogs, 2 I rescued, best buddies on the planet. Maybe I am in the minority, but PETA does some good, too extreemist for most. Somewhere in the middle I sit, it's funny how I hate watching an animal suffer, but when a dispicable human dies I feel vindicated. Maybe for that reason I have empathy for the critters whose life is being taken by human decisions, not their own choice, never given a chance. As a nation, we like to forget where meat comes from, I do not eat veal because I know better.  Also pet responsibility is HUGE, too many uneducated and selfish people ruin it for everyone else. I like to think most of us are good pet owners and do the right thing. I also do not watch Animal Planet when they have the cops investigating abused pets, I want to reach into the TV and beat the living sh!t right out of the ah0le who neglected something that depended on his care.

Here is a link, my hero is Steve Courson. First player to publicly admit to the Steroid issue in the NFL, got black balled out of the league. He died saving the life of his black lab. I would like to think I would do the same, hopefully I never find out.

http://tribes.tribe.net/oldeschoolfootball/thread/522a754e-db81-4a47-a16e-8d7df26174fb

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I get all emotional when I see animals suffer, it is the way I am.

I don't like it either.

I do not have HBO and actually glad I don't after reading your post.

If you ever do get it, Real Sports is an OUTSTANDING show that brings to the forefront many sports stories like this that the public would never hear otherwise.

I just posted this the other day about Eight Belles (someone asked why she couldn't be saved):

There is a reason for that.   A girl that I was very good friends in college rode in several large Equestrian events.   Her father was a animal surgeon who worked a lot with horses (and made a ridiculous amount of money per year doing so).    I asked him about this topic and his answer was essentially the same as what the article I'm providing below says.   

Just using common sense, if there was even a 1% realistic chance that they could have successfully saved Eight Belles, OF COURSE they would have done it.   Why?   Because human self-interest dictated that she was worth a fortune from her potential offspring alone.   

Ironicallly that same reasoning could have contributed to her demise.    The horse racing industry has extremely questionable breeding practices that have inbred them perhaps to a point that has crossed the line.     Both Barbaro and Eight Belles (who had essentially double the injury of Barbaro) were related to each other.    

In this year's Kentucky Derby ALL 20 horses were relatives of the great Native Dancer.    Moreover, of all thoroughbreds in the United States, 75% are relatives of Native Dancer.  

http://www.slate.com/id/2190571/

Maybe I am in the minority, but PETA does some good, too extremist for most.

I agree that these extremist groups (environmentalists, etc) are good in the sense that they keep the issues at the forefront of people's minds instead of on the backburner.   Other aspects of them, I absolutely can't stand.  

I am basically a realist about it.   Animals do need to die.  So if they do die, let's try to do it the least painful way possible.   There is no need to use crude and painful methods when better alternatives exist.    If I were a horse, I wouldn't want to be held upside down and have my throat slit, but rather receive a quick and rather painless (comparatively speaking) injection.  

If you want to watch something interesting, P&T did a show about PETA... AMAZING.    You'll never think of PETA the same way again.   They even kill animals themselves.   And that doesn't even begin to talk about the ALF...  Nor does it begin to talk about PETA sponsoring physical terrorism.... but all of that is included below... really quite disturbing:

Part 1:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMJVnTYxHVc

Part 2:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xf-_wgTRgGc

Part 3:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfP8qtJLxJ0

Somewhere in the middle I sit, it's funny how I hate watching an animal suffer, but when a dispicable human dies I feel vindicated.

:)

As a nation, we like to forget where meat comes from, I do not eat veal because I know better.

They cover that in the video links above. 

:)   I agree.   I've got several rescued animals myself.   They've got it great compared to living out on the streets.    In fact, one of them is sleeping right next to me now as I am typing.  

Here is a link, my hero is Steve Courson. First player to publicly admit to the Steroid issue in the NFL, got black balled out of the league. He died saving the life of his black lab. I would like to think I would do the same, hopefully I never find out.

Thanks for the link!   I remember hearing about that on the news.   Sounds like he was a great guy.   

Thanks for the post!

Cheers!

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One of the reasons I really don't want to see the inside of a slaughter house.  I'm not a vegetarian.  I'm not surprised at this.  Alot of times it's about the money.  Putting an animal down costs money.  Giving an animal away costs money.  How we have treated our "food" has never been humane, look at what they do to calves intended to be slaughtered for veal. 

I spent a year in Korea.  I received an interesting education, dogs that roamed the street, or wondered freely were family pets.  Not so with dogs bred for the sole intention of becoming dinner.  These animals were kept locked in cages, they weren't allowed to touch the ground, no exercise.  I didn't want to see how they killed them.  I'm sure no differently then cows.

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One of the reasons I really don't want to see the inside of a slaughter house.

Ugh... as a little Bong (probably around 6-7), we were up visiting some relatives in a rural area of Canada (that being like 98% of the country...lol).    One of them worked at a slaugherhouse in which he explained to me that is where they "package meat" (while neglecting to tell me the rest).   He asked if I wanted to go along and as you can probably imagine I was quite an inquisitive child and wanted to go along.  

Decades later, I can still vividly remember that smell.  :(    You know when you are driving past a huge farm and the smell infiltrates your car and is so atrocious that you hit the "re-circulate" button as quickly as possible?   Well that was like smelling a Glade scented candle compared to what the slaughterhouse smelled like.    I literally thought I was going to vomit when we were still over a hundred yards away from the doors.   I had my shirt covering my mouth and nose and it didn't help.   My eyes were watering from the strength of the odor.  

In retrospect, part of me is glad I saw it as I got to see how it was done and it was educational, yet on the other hand I probably have permanent PTSD from it.   I've always been a meat eater, though I prefer chicken now more times than not (unless a sweet filet mignon/chateaubriand is sitting right in front of me).   I used to like fish until my parents made me it hate it by forcing me to eat it during Lent.   Now I can't go near fish (hough I do love lobster, crab and shrimp).   Interesting that Lent killed fish for me, but the slaugherhouse didn't prevent me from eating meat.... sort of amusing when you stop and think about it.    :)

Agreed.   The funny thing here though is that these horses would be worth more than $200 on the open riding market (I would guess... I don't know a ton about the market).   Horses are expensive aren't they?   Just doing a quick search now on my local CL, the first one I clicked on came up for $6K (though there were others for adoption):

http://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/pet/675518108.html

My big issue with this is that these people that buy these expensive thoroughbreds easily have the money to pay $60 to put them down humanely.   When someone buys a horse, it should be like their "pet" in the sense that they have some level of responsibility for its life.  

How we have treated our "food" has never been humane, look at what they do to calves intended to be slaughtered for veal.

True.  

I spent a year in Korea.  I received an interesting education, dogs that roamed the street, or wondered freely were family pets.  Not so with dogs bred for the sole intention of becoming dinner.  These animals were kept locked in cages, they weren't allowed to touch the ground, no exercise.  I didn't want to see how they killed them.  I'm sure no differently then cows.

I have several friends from the Philippines and from other Asian countries where dog is a fairly common meal.   In the end, I suppose it is just meat like anything else.    I don't have a problem with people eating dog, I just wish that they would kill the animals with the least amount of pain as possible.  

Thanks for the post!   :)

Cheers!

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Hopefully all of this shows up correctly tomorrow as the site is all whacky again tonight.   :(   

As of now, the blog doesn't even have the correct post count despite my trying to correct that by deleting and reposting which still didn't work.  

It looks OK for now though otherwise.  

Cheers...

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I don't have a problem with people eating dog, I just wish that they would kill the animals with the least amount of pain as possible.   Well given that only one state has a "death with dignity" law, is it surprising that we're less humane to animals?

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Well given that only one state has a "death with dignity" law, is it surprising that we're less humane to animals?

That's a great question as it is a prime example of two opposing perspectives being true about the same issue.    From one perspective what you say above is true.   From the opposing perspective, at least our pets CAN be put to sleep humanely in all 50 states if their owners choose to do so (unlike humans).   :)

Cheers!